VS 2005 hardware: AMD or Intel?

I have VS 2005 Beta2 installed on my P4 2,4MHz machine and now
I'm planning to buy a new machine with x64 processor.

Can anyone suggest what to buy: Intel or AMD chip. Which is better for VS?

Regards

[209 byte] By [Nihad] at [2008-3-6]
# 1
I would go with the cheapest without sacrificing too much performance. E.g. both offer low-end versions of their 64-bit hardware, I would avoid these. I also would advise not getting a super high-end - unless you just have the cache, and instead spend it on getting better memory or even raid.
I personally think you will probably see a more significant performance boost by purchasing a good RAID Controller card (e.g. don't use onboard or software emulated) and set up Raid 1 or 5.
MarcD at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 2
I upgraded my system to 64 bit two months ago and decided to switch to AMD. The board I ended up with supports DDR400 memory, so I didn't have to buy new memory. All Intel boards required DDR-2 667 memory.

From a performance point, I don't think the two systems will make a big difference. AMD is probably cheaper, and the CPUs have a technology called Cool'n'Quiet, which reduces the core frequency to save energy (resulting in less heat), just like mobile processors.

DanielRieck at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 3
Hi,

I am personally using a AMD Athlon64 based system for VS2005 and other stuff.

However I must add that the Intel EM64T technology is the same as AMD x64 and there is no such thing as better between the two. Its just that AMD 64-bit processors have been around for a while and AMD has a bigger market share as far as 64-bit processors are concerned.

Regards,
Vikram

Vikram at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 4
There are subtle differences between the two. There have been reported bugs with the Intel EM64T chips that don't appear on the AMD variety.

such as the following
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;907892&sd=rss&spid=3198

Although bear in mind that the problem may have been phrased incorrectly and may include AMD chips too. But with a title that specifically states Intel EM64T can't be that far off the mark.

Gurbhajan

Gurbhajan at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 5
That problem really does only affect EM64T systems, not AMD64 systems. There are subtle differences between the two, but those differences lie primarily in instruction set extensions: EM64T systems don't support the full gamut of 3DNow! Professional instructions (which is a super set of SSE2). The only instruction that matters, as far as I recall, is prefetchw, which the OS just turns into a NOP if it's encountered on an EM64T system.

As far as performance, go look at benchmark sights for an idea of the relative performance. If all you care about is functionality, they're as good as identical...

-Kev

KevinFrei at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 6

I can't back this up with any benchmarks whatsoever, but my line of thinking going on my knowledge of the two processors would be that since Athlons are usually quicker when it comes to float calcs, and Intels typically better at int ops, it would make sense than an Intel would be quicker. However, given the way the AMD and Intel numbering schemes are these days, and the numbers seem to mean diddlysquat (despite them intending them to be lined up against certain ones), I'd be suggesting you just pick the best one in terms of bang for buck.

Of course, for that, you'll need benchmarks.

trowe at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....
# 7
Go with AMD, they own the x64 instruction set and the OS was built against their processors. Intel have licensed x64 from AMD and built their own processors.
Personally I see no reason at all to use Intel, unless their some significant price/perf reason, Intel had nothing to do with x64 other than entering into a license arrangement with AMD.
H
Hugo at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,.NET Development,64-Bit .NET Framework Development....

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