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Lot of Redundant Rescan / re-indexing after each boot

Having trouble with 3.01, it keeps rescanning the whole disk after we reboot the system. It just goes thru then netire object list and lot of I/O after the reboot and recans for indexing. Is there a setting we need to change ?

[226 byte] By [rsks] at [2008-1-8]

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# 1

Hi: That's only one problem. Here are two more related problems:

1. The specs state that WDS3.01 will snooze - stop indexing - when another activity is initiated by the user. Reality: WDS3.01 keeps going regardless, hogging resources and seriously slowing the computer despite generous RAM of 2GB

2. The specs also state that WDS3.01 will stop indexing when the computer is on battery power. Reality: indexing keeps going while on battery power causing fast power drain.

I'd be grateful for any help for all three problem. TXS, EM

EM at 2007-10-2 >

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# 2

Can you try and disable the .XML file extension in the "Indexing Options" control panel and see if that helps with your performance issues?

EricWolz-MSFT at 2007-10-2 >

# 3

Eric Wolz - MSFT wrote:

Can you try and disable the .XML file extension in the "Indexing Options" control panel and see if that helps with your performance issues?

It doesn't Work there is another thread "WDS Rescan issue" and people have been screaming but no one from MS is looking at it anymore. Its a widespread problem / Bug and MS is not interested to research/answer anymore.

rsks at 2007-10-2 >

# 4

Can you narrow down the locations your indexing to determine what items are getting reindexed? Is it email, files, network files?

EricWolz-MSFT at 2007-10-2 >

# 5

I, on my installation, only experienced this problem with network locations. I just reinstalled WDS and tried again, set up one network folder for indexing, let WDS index it, up to 23,279 files, then rebooted.

After rebooting, the WDS status window showed 23,279 indexed files, then counted the "files still to check" (I work with the german version, so this is roughly translated) rapidly up to 23,400 and began to rescan. I think WDS is really scanning the elements rather than reindexing them, because network traffic is much smaller the second time. While WDS puts about 40% load on my 100MBit Ethernet connection at building the index the first time, this is only about 1-4% when rescanning/reindexing.

While counting up numbers after reboot, there is something about zero network traffic.

JHaenf at 2007-10-2 >

# 6

There are two PCs : On one its only Local C: drive only which had Outlook 2007, and all other regular Docs and is an XP system. Second PC has C:, Outlook 2003 and Mapped drive on the other PC with XP.

Have exact same issue with both PCs. It starts Building the index from zero to max and hogs the drive utilization, every time PC is rebooted. It does complete the Re-index bit faster than the original first time Index creation, but it still takes good 30-50 minutes to re-index about 85,000 items.

rsks at 2007-10-2 >

# 7

I removed all file types buy Word, Excel, Powerpoint, image files, and Adobe PDF. I then deleted the index, restarted. I still have continuous rescans. It can take a minute or more to open one email because the resources on the hard drive are maxed out.

JonCameron at 2007-10-2 >

# 8

Can you try and disable .XML extension from indexing?

EricWolz-MSFT at 2007-10-2 >

# 9

Eric Wolz - MSFT wrote:

Can you try and disable .XML extension from indexing?

I tried this before and tried again today: Disabled xml files, WDS started to build a completely new index, when it had finished I rebooted the system. Then the same behavior begins as I described before, WDS starts to count up new items and then starts to reindex / rescan them.

JHaenf at 2007-10-2 >

# 10

We already tried this before and tried it again and re-built the new index, still same results, after reboot, it rescans/reindexes.

rsks at 2007-10-2 >

# 11

I removed *.xml, reindexed, rebooted, and it went right back to building the index again. Of the 42,000 indexed items, it rebuilds about 8,000 of them. Any other file types? I have removed more than half the file types to try and address the issue but nothing has seemed to fix the problem. Thinking there might be a problem with BCM, we uninstalled and reinstalled. This did not help either.

JonCameron at 2007-10-2 >

# 12

Can you copy/paste any events in your event log that have Search or Gatherer as the source? Go to Control Panel -> Admin Tools -> Event Viewer, In the left nav pane under Windows Logs, select "Application"

AriPolsky-MSFT at 2007-10-2 >

# 13

whats your email address, I do have event log file if you need one...
Information 5/29/2007 12:42:01 PM Windows Search Service Search service 1003 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:52 PM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:44 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:44 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:44 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:43 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:43 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:43 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:43 PM McLogEvent None 5000 SYSTEM MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM WMDM PMSP Service None 105 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM SQLBrowser None 12 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM SQLBrowser None 16 N/A MYPC1
Warning 5/29/2007 12:41:42 PM SQLBrowser None 3 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 12:41:41 PM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:39 PM McAfee HackerWatch Service None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:41:39 PM DataSvr2 None 0 N/A MYPC1
Warning 5/29/2007 12:39:40 PM Userenv None 1517 SYSTEM MYPC1
Warning 5/29/2007 12:39:39 PM Userenv None 1524 Rajiv MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:39:07 PM Outlook None 30 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:08:07 PM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:07:56 PM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 12:07:56 PM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 10:23:58 AM Outlook None 32 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 10:23:58 AM Outlook None 32 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 9:35:40 AM ntbackup None 8019 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 9:35:28 AM ntbackup None 8001 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 8:54:05 AM ntbackup None 8000 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 8:52:39 AM VSS None 12289 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 8:52:36 AM MSDTC Disk 2444 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 8:52:32 AM ntbackup None 8018 N/A MYPC1
Warning 5/29/2007 8:23:09 AM Windows Search Service Gatherer 3042 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 8:23:09 AM Windows Search Service Gatherer 3044 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:53:06 AM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:34 AM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:33 AM mcmispupdmgr None 0 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:24 AM Windows Search Service Search service 1003 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:14 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:14 AM WMDM PMSP Service None 105 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:06 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:06 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Information 5/29/2007 7:51:06 AM McLogEvent None 5000 SYSTEM MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:06 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:06 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:05 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:05 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:05 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1
Error 5/29/2007 7:51:04 AM MSSQL$MSSMLBIZ (2) 17058 N/A MYPC1

rsks at 2007-10-2 >

# 14

Can you just include those events that have a source of Search or Gatherer? Also, please include event details (right click on event, Copy, Copy Details as Text).

AriPolsky-MSFT at 2007-10-2 >

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