im a beginner please help

hello!!!
im a beginner, but i really want to learn how to make a program. but my problem is i dont know where to start! based in a forum that i have read that C++ is a good start. so i decided to start learning C++, but i dont know where to start to learn the language! please can any one help me?
[302 byte] By [emvie] at [2008-1-9]
# 1

What type of program are you trying to make? Provide more details and you'll receive more help from everyone.

cmwith at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 2

I found the express versions of visual studio is a good start - and they're free. If you have a background with C, C# is a good place to begin. There are a number of books available - the Murach (murach.com) and Microsoft books (mspress.com) are good. Are you a self starter or might you need formal training ?

mperrone at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 3
well honestly i cant create a program, because i dont have knoledge in any language yet, so my porpose for now is not to create a program yet, but to gain knowledge on C++ that i might used to create program in the future, "i am only a beginner", so i am asking everyone if they could help me to learn on how to start learning C++. i dont have a formal background when it comes to programming, but i have already try and create simple programs using assembly language. programs such as loops, jump and others, and now i want to learn the C++ programming, it seems to be more functional than asembly language.

I have already installed Visual Studio express edition on my pc, but i cant use it, because i dont know how to code in C++, Anyone please give me an advice on where should i start to learn how to code in C++ and how to use visual studio. i really want to learn the language. Please help me.

cmwith can u help me?
thank's for the comment!!!


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# 4
yes im just a self starter, the only background that i have in programming is the assembly language, but only the basic of it, do you think i can learn the C++ alone without any assistance? with only assembly language as my background.
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# 5
It is slightly odd for someone to have asm training but no higher level languages to your credit. If you really are "coming up", then you might want to go via the language C, but in either case I think you'll probably enjoy and find C# easier to code with.
Matt at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 6

I found this site to be invaluable. They have short self-paced videos ranging from beginner to advanced with C# and VB.

learnvisualstudio.net

I already have a subscription and I can ask if I can send you one of their videos. There is a subscription fee.

I don't know if I would spend much time with C++ (maybe you meant C# ?). With your background in assembler, it should not be difficult to pick up a high-level language -- in fact, it will be easier.

Good luck - happy programming

mperrone at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 7
probably both of u agreed on same poin, but what is the advantage of C# from C++, i site some examples of codes using C#, and the sample i find is the hello world program using C#, and it seems to me that the code in C# is more complex than in code in C++.

and onother thing, do msdn not included when i installed the visual basic Express edition? because i cant compile the program i have created on C++, a message box appears and told me that i need to install msdn to compile.

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# 8

help!!!

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# 9

If you already have done some work with C++, going to C# is not difficult. When you install the express edition, there are a number of examples both on the web and the help files. I think microsoft has a site of sample applications. Just have to jump in - the water is a little cold at first but you get used to it

mperrone at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 10

I think you did good choosing C-based language. Specially C++. Start writing console applications too learn the language. You should learn it first and have a good understanding of classes, inheritance, specially pointers. Those things are now everywhere. Later it will be easy to move to another language like C# and to start writing in .NET. But whatever language you choose there are the same rules you should understand. I think C# is most productive for .NET and you shouldn't use it as a first language. Try C++.

Visit the www.codeproject.com site, the great source of knowledge...

Wurrdúsh at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 11

thanks guys! but i'll try to learn C++ first to serve as my foundtion in highlevel programming, becouse i dont think im ready for C# for now. but after i learn C++ then i'll try to learn C#.

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# 12

thanks a lot Wurrdush! codeproject.com is a verry good site, so i joined it.

Thanks for the help!

emvie at 2007-10-3 > top of Msdn Tech,Feedback for forums and MSDN websites,Where Is the Forum For...?...
# 13

hey guys!

thanks for all the comments and sudgestions!

thanks god there are people like you guys.

thank you for helping!!!!!!!!

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