new to programming

hey i'm new to progreamming, in doing some windows apps it is better to use c# or c++ (i have little knowlege of C) i like c# productivity, but C++ power (speed).

what u recomand

[192 byte] By [Terrax] at [2007-12-24]
# 1
Terrax wrote:

i like c# productivity, but C++ power (speed).

what u recomand?

I recommend C++/CLI
Start using it ( Even I just started :) )

Sarath. at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 2

Terrax wrote:
to use c# or c++ (i have little knowlege of C) i like c# productivity, but C++ power (speed).

There will be no significant speed difference between applications created using C++/CLI or C#. As for power, it means different things to different people. To me power means the ability to do the things I want to do. In the context of a managed application that ability is about the same. One additional thing you get with C++ is the ability to create unmanaged applications, but the occasion for an unmanaged application comes very rarely, so, it is a little used feature. Furthermore, power comes from the programmer not from the language or the IDE , so you should just choose the language you feel most comfortable with.

Cheers

Sahir

SahirShah at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 3
i recommend c++ for client/server software applications. you get access to design features both compile-time and run-time. women say to me (passionately) c++ is sexy language.

Gary

kuphryn at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 4

by C++/CLI u mean visual C++ ? or is it something else?

if so what pluggin or where can i download it

Terrax at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 5
i think you are looking for this.have a look on the Following Link
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/02/PureC/
Thanx
pintu* at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 6
Terrax wrote:

by C++/CLI u mean visual C++ ? or is it something else?

if so what pluggin or where can i download it

Please see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B/CLI

SahirShah at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 7
ok thx guys...
Terrax at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 8

btw C++/CLI is working with .NET? and if it does it means that C++/CLI apps can't run without NET Framework?

if it uses .NET Framework than its not faster than C# or is it?

is C++/CLI mono compatibile (if it uses NET Framework)

Terrax at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...
# 9
If you have little knowledge of C, then you would probably find C# somewhat easier to learn than C++ (e.g., no pointers). However, a possible consideration is that once you know C++ you can write apps for UNIX/Linux as well as for Windows, and this really isn't true for C#, at least yet. (You would have to learn a different windows/graphics system for UNIX/Linux, of course, but the application core language would be the same.) Also, if you are working with native code under Windows rather than within the .NET environment, C++ would certainly be the way to go, and if you are worried about speed as you say, then in fact you well might choose to "go native". Good luck!
WilR. at 2007-8-31 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual C++,Visual C++ General...