Visual Studio .net 2003 Help does not work

Hi! I have found yet another problem. I am trying to read through the tutorials that came with this progam and sadly, it does not work either. I get a server not found error in what looks like a browser incorporated in the software. Another thing that was interesting, the registration for this software does not appear to work either. Is this why I am seein visual studio .net 2005? There is so many bugs in 2003 that they decided to release a new version as a cleanup 2 years later? It doesn't give you a nice warm feeling.

I am new to programming with the visual studio tools so if anyone could point me to a service pack or something that could fix these problems, that would be great.

kalias :(

[705 byte] By [kalias] at [2008-2-11]
# 1
Hi Kalias,

Thanks for your post, and sorry for the frustration. I'd like to make sure I understand what the problem is. Have you installed both VS2003 and VS2005 on the same machine? What steps are you performing up to getting the server-not-found error in the VS internal web browser?

Thanks,
Jeremy

JeremyJones at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual Studio,Developer Documentation and Help System...
# 2
No worries Jeremy :)) The problem has been resolved, I phoned the microsoft support line and a very nice fellow from India helped me for about an hour. There were two problems. The first problem was that the software could not update itself and it needed a hotfix to repair it. I checked the web, the hotfix was not there. The fellow talked to or emailed someone else who sent it to me. The number was hotfix 836454. This resolved the problem where the software could not update itself from the web.

The second problem that I had was that the help did not work. This was related to my temporary internet file. Apparently visual studo .net needs this to be clean or something, it had to be deleted and rebuilt. Once that was done (it was a non-trival process), everything was fine.

I am now able to write simple c programs and get them to work. As an aside I would have to say that this is one of the most difficult to figure out pieces of software I have ever used. To give you some background, I have done hardware design for the past 20 years using verilog, vhdl, palasm, abel, etc. On the software side I already know basic, fortran, multiple assemblers. So I can honestly say I do have some experience. I am not sure why the school recommended it.

I think the problem is there are too many options. I imagine this is okay if you have had a training course on it but to pick it up and use it, yikes! It might be a whole lot better if there was a simple mode. Very simple things are hard like how do you delete projects so they dissapear from the start page? There is no help that tells you how to do it. There are 500 answers to other things but not the simple ones. I had to post a question on the forum to get the answer.

Here is a good question for you. I want to compile a hello world program. I have to open a project for a win32 console app. Got that to work but it says "object does not support this property or method". I enter my program and compile it but when I try to run it I get a window saying "Unable to start debugging ...cannot find file specified hello_world.exe". The c code compiles with no errors but the tool does not run it? You see the problem is I have to spend more time trying to figure out the tool than using it. I imagine it is quite good...I am just not at a level yet where I can determine that.
Forturnately I have a linux box and have been able to use gcc to compile and test my programs for class. Compiling the code here is easy:
gcc -o hello_world hello_world.c
to run:
./hello_world

Simple. Two lines to learn.

Slowly I am starting to use visual studio .net (we have to use it in class) but it is going to take a while.

thanks

kalias :)

kalias at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual Studio,Developer Documentation and Help System...
# 3
Jeremy, another quick question. Since I have purchased visual net 2003 in the past month, will I get an upgrade to 2005 when it comes out? Hopefully it will be simpler than 2003.

kalias :)

kalias at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual Studio,Developer Documentation and Help System...
# 4
Hello Kalias,

Thanks for all of the great feedback. I feel your pain that Visual Studio can be an overwhelming piece of software! We made a big move toward addressing this in Visual Studio 2005 by producing Express Editions, which are simplified versions of VS that are customized for a particular language.

As for your question about upgrading from 2003 to 2005, I don't think it's free but I don't know the details. They will be posted on this site though as soon as all the pricing information is available!
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/

You had some other questions about compiling Visual Studio projects. For such questions, you're probably best off on the Visual Studio forums (this forum is specific to the Documentation system)

Hope this helps some!

Thanks!
Jeremy Jones

JeremyJones at 2007-9-9 > top of Msdn Tech,Visual Studio,Developer Documentation and Help System...
# 5
If the Help from the 2003 CD does not work then try the MSDN help from January 2006. When this is installed then context-sensitive help seems to work much better. But be warned that the April 2006 Help is Not The Same.

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